Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. Thirdeev. Well technically Dr. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. #1. Dlaek66669; Thread;Business, Economics, and Finance. (They Became the HOI, basically writer tier, or paper tier). 1 of 2 Go to page. 213. 0. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are. He was initially depicted as functionally omnipotent showing feats like creating planets and destroying galaxies. Conceptual Beings In Marvel are A Heavy Case Even Complex to Pre Retcon Beyonder and Comprehension in General More Real Than they Are so they create Forms and Allow others to Create forms of them to Interact or. #15 Azronger. Still, Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps here. u/nullfather can attest to that. Lucifer from DC comics (new-earth). Pennywise beyond infinite-D has no basis. Both High 1-B Thanos: 2 Beyonder:8 Inconclusive: 1 P. Beyonder, Solar vs. Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation)beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and AnswersPre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. #2. He wins. 1. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A Name:' The. Yujiro teaches the Beyond how to love, so I guess they both win. 2. The Hand - Marked the beginning of creation. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. "For the. Beyonder and its not even close. ago. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Lucifer Morningstar at his strongest is Oblivion-tier. I really can't be asked to go. Beyonders too has proven in little EXP because h e has lost his power on various occasions and despite claiming to be omniscient, but in practice had to learn everything by experience. The Scarlet King is a single universe outer God. His anti-feats are plot-induced because it's attempting to tell the story of him trying to figure out the Marvel multiverse because it's so tiny and simplistic in scope to the Beyonder realm. Yeah true. Forum Posts. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. Edit: Darkest Knight and anti-crisis wonder woman probably also beat the beyonder, as they are empowered by the infinite crisis or anti-crisis energy (the fundamental good/bad energies of the universe, as provided by the presence. . 7 K. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. Jan 22, 2018; Thread starter #2 bump . THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. Nov 25, 2017. Divyansh13. - Fight Scenario -. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. HOTU has shit tier feats, as does Beyonder. Manhattan's league. With that said, some random guy asked Tom Brevoort on Pre-retcon Beyonder being an omnipotent, and this is what he had to say. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. Thus, Bill, in theory, could do something that the Beyonder never. She’s not on Living Tribunal’s tier. One Punch Man gets one punched by Beyonder and the shock wave from the punch kills Squirrel Girl as well. ago. Jackalinthebox said: I thought pre-retcon Beyonder was closer in power to Lucifer & Michael, rather than the Presence. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. " Do not attempt to upgrade the pre-retcon Beyonder to 1-A, due to two instances in which the Beyond-Realm was described as being beyond time and space of the universe or multiverse. Yet beings like Nyatharlope can create infinite numbers of infinite universes of infinite dimensions easily. Apr 2014. Even if it wasn't I'm pretty sure this wasn't added due to being a stomp. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). Dreamxd26 • 2 yr. )Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. Origin: Marvel. R2: God stomps. The Beyonder should easily be Tier 0 and here's why:-. even though the aftermath of it still did for the mainstream universe. Nothing beats Pre-Retcon Beyonder! Pre-Retcon Beyonder was THE Supreme Being of Marvel! The TOAA before TOAA existed! He was basically God! God Emperor Doom (The Secret Wars 2015 version) would. Contrary to popular belief, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is actually significantly below Pre-Retcon Beyonder in terms of power. I have him at Multiversal. When ranking the strength of characters the natural thing to go by first is physics. he has base stats of high island ap and dura with near sol speed and ftl combat speed. The Beyonder is a fictional character appearing in comicbooks published by Marvel Comics. So BeyonderGod Beyonder > Cynical DemonbaneSearch titles only By: Search Advanced search…Beyonder by feats however after thinking about it i think EGD should win. CynicalWeeb's Demonbane is Lucifer level. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. All of Dr. So I might be missing something. PRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. 81. And this character is an entire cardinal infinite tier below. (50% off!) Beyonder vs The Presence. I know someone think that Victor means Cosmic cube not Beyonder pre-retcon ,but I think it's Beyonder pre-retcon. 0. . Celestials > Post-Retcon Beyonder > Phoenix Force. Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Superhuman Strength: Superman Prime One Million has the ability to physically lift humongous levels of weight, and deliver physical blows of colossal magnitudes. The Source - Primal Monitor, The universal spirit venerated by the New Gods, which resides beyond the Source Wall. He would also be the main villain in. It's simple. So he could just kill them and the concepts they represent. Yes, the Ivory Kings are retcon back inspirations to Pre Retcon Beyonder, but they are merely inspirations. Mxyzptlk, Lucifer Morningstar, & Maxwell (DC) VS Pre Retcon Beyonder, Molecule Man & Galactus (Marvel) 2. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. There's a reason why the word "retcon" is used; pre-retcon Beyonder doesn't exist anymore. He. So I might be missing something. High 3-A. akuto fictionally transcends an uncountably infinite layered hierarchy of characters who are above the concepts of space & time and/or platonic forms in nature which also contains all possibilities & impossibilities, & each tier in the hierarchy fictionally transcends the one below it, making even the lowest characters in the hierarchy very high into high. Cosmic. The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. which is. People already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. 12984. Basically, either or both can be considered to be the presence, in either it's evil or good forms. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. Beyonder was everything inside the Multi-verse. @zxzcczzcxz said: Fodder comic verse that lose to barely street tier verse and can't beat Warframe and Destiny vs high. While thinking the Beyonder accidentally destroys the Omniverse. 2. But basically Dr. 7. Even an Taiyoku level of One is easily Outerversal level. All Characters are at full powerView community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit Pre-Retcon Beyonder (Marvel) vs Rebirth Superman (DC) The both of them at their strongestBecause his existence makes cosmic tier debaters run from me in discussions. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. Grace ended months ago, but I'm pretty sure Aka's High 1-B key is being downgraded (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. Pre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. Well, they are treated as the same character, the Beyonder who showed up post-retcon is, canonically, the same Beyonder who showed up pre-Retcon. Follow 1963. Reply. So wow great feat. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. Unwritten Leviathan are highly hyperversal, if not extraversal. It would be the Inhuman/mutant beyonder powers so Post Retcon but not the trash Cosmic Cube one. She isn't on the level of Lucifer, or PR Beyonder, or anywhere close to TOAA. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. I am still wondering, the summary clearly says Racher Summers could beat the Beyonder if she absorbed all life force. And he has just way more hax and reality manipulation against the mostly physical Goku to handle! 11. Goku is low outer at best and byonder is easily outerversal. 2 years ago. Ah I see so when people say flash is OP what they mean is OP with respect to most commonly cited superheroes/villains. 5)^2 + DUR^1. CryptoA registered-source only wiki that is built upon stolen concepts (They stole from a Russian Wiki called Anime-Fight Club which just like Vsbattles Wiki is biased against comics) and known for stealing loads of information from Outskirts Battle Dome and Google+ (from my friends) and trying to pass it as if they know the information themselves until. 2. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is a nigh omnipotent high tier multiversal reality warper there is no way in hell Anti-Spiral or even Simon could win against someone on that level of power. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. 124. ~Old CBR Post Count: 834~. which allows michael to ignore boundless narrative hierarchy and can create the concept to make new ones over and. 3 + (STR*0. City. Living Tribunal is beyond Eternity, and Pre-Retcon Beyonder was more powerful than LT. Key: Incomplete Cosmic Cube | Ascended Cosmic Cube (Kosmos) | Adult Beyonder | Escaped from the House of Ideas. Takes place in an abandoned multiverse. so i think the only characters. 11,582. Oct 24, 2019PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. He wins. This thread wouldn't affect what tier Molecule Man (Pre-Retcon) is at because he still would be High 1-B. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. Lucifer stomps. Matter of fact she doesn’t even beat Mister Mxyztplk. Black Friday DEAL: 1 Year Membership for $5. Teams that give him a good enough fight to make him respect them he lets live. 9 K Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. People rank Oblivion very high because of the statements made about him in Chaos War but you can apply that to any evil character with vagueish powers, like Cyttorak or whatever. TOBA is just TOAA's alternate persona. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. Bernkastel vs her servant Will ( not an actual battle. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 3. Abraxas, the personification of the destruction of the multiverse, is likely somewhere around here, although since he only. Yes, pre-retcon MM was strong, but he needed so much support to get anything done. The same way AAO is the Supreme Being of the Marvel Multiverse. Beyonder displayed far superior implicated power than the. Forums. In terms of straight up feats CAS Lucifer and Mandrakk all technically show better feats then Perpetua. A desperate Molecule Man begins crying about the. WF Mr. Posts. Follow. Reply. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 12 days ago. He was initially depicted as functionally omnipotent showing feats like creating planets and destroying galaxies. At the time this storyline was written Beyonder Spider-Man would stomp. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. That being said, I’m going to give this one to the pre-retcon Beyonder. Thanos w/ Astral Regulator is the strongest character in Marvel-verse. Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated. Dem nah, There's toaa, pre retcon beyonder, toba,and true form oblivion as obvious choices but there's actually alot more. Heck, even the ones who created said multiverse and pretty casually at that are massively inferior to him. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. perpetua slams but shinra one taps both because he’s tier -1 and transcends all. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. Planetary. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Scarlet King (SCP). Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. The Scarlet King scales above Aleph 2 and 3 which Marvel doesn't reach that level. 3 years ago. The Byonder had to use an infinitesimal fraction of himself to possess people until he got close enough to Doom and have Doom lose control of the. ^2 + DUR^1. #8. They may have gotten stronger and better feats post ret con but I. CryptoCurrent MM isn't that strong in comparison to a high-tier reality warper. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) (Marvel Comics) The-One-Above-All (Marvel Comics) The Presence (DC Comics) Mother of Existence (Image Comics) Divine Presence (I/O) Emperor-Beyond-The-Sea (The Chronicles of Narnia) Eru Iluvatar (Lord of the Rings) Gan (The Dark Tower) God (Digimon) The Force/Gentle Pull (Mario) The Creator (The Wheel of Time). Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. As in you're taking the story at face value. He could possibly neutralise Doc and Sun with science alone but the others are true top-end with actual god tier powers. The Voice - This is the most "active" version of God, When The Voice uttered the first word, it created The Word. Pre-retcon Beyonder is beyond all that. @divinemaster: seeing no one is making an argument For Pre Retcon Beyonder, i will play the devil's advocate. the_doctor. Pre Retcon Beyonder'in seviyesi benim gözümde Mandrakk ile aynıdır ki buna göre sadece Vertigodan bile bayağı bir karakter yazabilirim bende. 2. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. Both are in character. Beyonder is a million times larger than an Infinite Dimensional Multiverse, the difference between him and an Omniverse is far greater than the one between MM. #1 KalKent1297. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesAttack Potency: Multi-Continent level (Far superior to Spider-Man (Marvel Comics), should be comparable to his sidekick, Kratos | At least Outerverse level (Superior to Composite Spiderman, who at one point became the Beyonder (Pre-Retcon), his minion usurped Gan as the avatar of VSBW user Yobobojojo), likely far higher (Said to solo trash. Poll Scathan The Approver vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder (84 votes) Scathan 26%. Pre retcon Beyonder is probably the closest you'd get, I'd say Lucifer could even beat the living tribunal, not really anyone else who comes close. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy and could assume any gender that "he" wanted) Age: Unknown. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Pre-Retcon Beyonder for the win, its just that one panel's narration about being billions or was it millions of times more powerful then all the multiverse combined, thats what convinces me he is above TOAA. the Source blinks Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Jack Kline can’t do shit. Win by death, KO, incapBeyonder (Pre Retcon) Molecule Man(Pre Retcon) The Living Tribunal; Oblivion; Amatsu-Mikaboshi (Chaos King) Cosmic Entities. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. So with that highballed literalized reasoning that Beyonder is an Ocean to Marvel's Existence and Multiverse and Gods like a droplet, Pre-Retcon Beyonder is at least, more than One hundred and. ''. That's actually like a low showing for him. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. He's been away from the Marvel Universe for a while but now he's back in all of his overpowered. 3 years ago. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Eg: The D's from Tenchi Muyo!, Giygas from Earthbound, Kubik and Post - Retcon Beyonder both from Marvel Comics, Milleniummon from Digimon, and Q from Star Trek, Celestial level: Easily universe. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. ) Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. I/O has a low-tier character that is on the level of Pre-Retcon Beyonder and everyone, as in literally EVERYONE, even the. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. It should however be noted that sometimes having overall destructive capacity is not enough to defeat others that have "broken" or "hax" abilities. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Alien X (author statements included). Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. Thelastmlg said: thought robot is around baseline high hyperversal while beyonder is stronger that everyone in the marvel multiverse combined times some millions which includes the living tribunal and if i not wrong multi-eternity which both are baseline high hyperversal. 43. The PR Beyonder was defined as a multiverse composed of literally everything outside of that, and that existence shared a single consciousness. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel : 2, 2016. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve. Omnipotent, Beyonder organized an event called Secret Wars, in which he kidnapped the most important superheroes and supervillains in the Marvel universe, for a confrontation between them on a distant planet. Phoenix in the new defenders will fight against Ômega Beyonder who are most powerful than pré-retcon Beyonder) 10 True Form Oblivion {See all Creation and Cosmos like a infinitesimal to him, he is the outside of Cosmos, The Previour outside are below than far shore, but the. Lucifer does not stand a chance here. LT literally held the entirety of Marvel and DC universe in the palm of. New Comics. Named but mid-level Celestials. Morals off. Inhuman Mutant beyonder probably pretty sure it was his powers in spidey that let him remake all creation in a fraction of a second. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. He's a high tier multiversal reality warper. The rest was necessary PIS to make a more interesting story and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. Yep. The biggest question is Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs HOTU. -Everything in bleach. Superhuman. Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. PRB has a lot of showings that would suggest otherwise. -. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more insane than his diet coke race counterparts Hickman used (yes they predate Hickman as Kubik in that FF4 comic shows, I know). Introduction on The Beyonder: OHOTMU v2 #16: The Beyonder was an extra-dimensional entity which was the sum of everything in the universe known as the Beyond-realm, and became aware of our universe/multiverse due to Owen's. TOAA: Got KOed by Thanos with the Regulator, stated he wasn't omnipotent unless the multiverse had "order", smaller multiverse. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. Pre-retcon Beyonder, ect. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. About; History; Powers; Equipment; Movies; Gallery; Battles; Comments; Edit; Power Stats; SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. PanzerX. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. 5. The Beyonders who are attacking the multiverse are beings that live in the beyond, which most likely is either outside the multiverse, or be void between universes. Shigaraki(My Hero Academia) fights an army of street tier DC and Marvel heroes. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. If we ignore Thought Robot's plot manipulating and implied power and go by feats, then I think Beyonder stops at round 9. MrStealYoSweetroll • 2 yr. Why? Because beyonder powers are const and limited. 5 )^2 + (SPE*0. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. This is just plain wrong, we see SK fighting abstract entities like the 5th God who infinitely dwarf the entire collective of human consciousness, wich in the verse includes Platonic and Neoplatonic philosophy, several religions like Buddhism and Taoism, and alephs and other higher teir mathematics. this is the Speed Tier List and how to put down the Speed on a Character Profile will be determined by these Reaction / Reflexes - the ability to distinguish between the movement of objects at a certain speed with a small distance (melee, less than 2 meters), with the possibility of taking any whatsoever countermeasures at this time, such as avoidance or. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. Basically he is like the Amalgam Brothers, but so much powerful the Brothers would be microscopic in comparison. And form. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. This is shown many times throughout Secret Wars 2. He needed to use his entire power to kill mistress death which left him drained . Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. - Neither. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. ProfessorRespect. The Beyonder himself has been described as infinite-dimensional in a far more reliable and explicit narration, and been referred to as only possessing power. They’re 50 tonners at most. Anyway Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than most of the shit in marvel including multiversal threats like Galactus and Thanos. I'm talking only about marvel and not including DC. The One Above All; Beyonder (Pre Retcon). From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. When Molecule Man faced The Sentry, he was in his unrestrained normal-self as he showed himself able to use his powers in new ways as he got rid of all his negative beliefs on his abilities (the Dark Reign Files are a. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate. 1 Answer. In one of those layers of nonexistence, the one who would soon be known (in one incarnation) as SCP-343 comes into being. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just erases the Throne of Heroes, killing every single servant because servants are copies of heroes, made using information from the Throne of Heroes Or he could just wipe out the entire Fate universe and everything outside itHe unretconned himself and became Omega Beyonder, being just as powerful—potentially even more stronger then his Pre-Retcon version form/version that he used to be. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. Spectre. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they transformed Owen Reece into the Molecule Man. You know that. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. God-Tier John armed with his Retcon Powers tries to solo your favorite verse. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰. This proves by showing you that he read the writer's mind and was able to talk to him and not only that, shred the comic-book and escaping to reality in 'Defenders: Beyond (2022-23)'Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. He encompasses all of dimensionality, but he does not transcend it. To start us off: What about:In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Beyonder wins with high difficulty . Since u said their "own" verse. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Almost any high tier character can beat him"Motion Carried!" ― Alien X Alien X is a sample of Celestialsapien DNA recorded in the Omnitrix that Ben Tennyson can utilize to take up the characteristics of a Celestialsapien. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God of Stories Loki Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Venom (The End) Archived post. Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. Wiki Points. The Physical Timeline Multiverse of DC has changed sizes from being 52 Timelines. Beyonder is a top tier reality warper there is no spoon there is no trigger there is no SOK. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. both use 1B rating Both team have 10 Years of prep bloodlusted. Then there is Inhuman/Mutant beyonder who had nothing to do with The beyonders. Attack techniques and abilities: The Presence has many aspects including. Giratina has quickly established itself as one of the stronger characters of the Low 2-C tier. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Making Beyonder stronger than a Tier 0 is not at all the same as scaling him to TLT. Follow 41274. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. xyrzrockrain. This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Blueface1999 • Additional comment actions. - featherin vs Lamdadelta (not an actual battle, featherin smashed/trashed Lamda with no actual effort) 3. R1: Post retcon Beyonder vs Bleach verse. True form DS power is unknown. The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. Attack Potency= Atleast Universal+ (killed countless cosmic beings from countless realities) | Atleast Hyperversal (3 of them was enough to kill The Living Tribunal and their battle with him raged across all realities at the same time) | High Hyperversal (The Beyonder from the secret wars (that would mean that the version of. The Beyonder tells "We're the real. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. Sorted by: 9. Name: Beyonder Origin: Marvel Tier: 1-B | 1-A Gender: Inapplicable Classification: Cosmic Entity Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Nigh Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Nigh Omniscience, Remote Mind Control, Reality Embodiment, Reality Condition, Physical Law Immunity, Reality Warping Weaknesses: None Notable Destructive Capacity: Beyond. In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. The Presence vs. I am allowing characters who only appeared once and characters that aren't part of the main Canon. Inbetweener. True Form Pennywise ain't on Pre-Retcon Beyonder's level, lol. K. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. The First and Second Retcon Beyonder are not above The LIving Tribunal. You yourself admit that Pre-retcon Beyonder is infinite dimensional, as he is inferior to TOAA it supports TOAA being beyond that. Rememeber he is a CONCEPT who wields power enough for him to create and destroy 60 billion. The Beyond Realm is a existence that is beyond and older than the current Marvel Omniverse, Originally a realm that was from the Original Beyonder and due to retcons is currently housed by the Omnipotential beings known as The Beyonders. He would also be the main villain in. ago No. Pre Retcon Beyonder. -Everything in bleach. Disable any adblocker and tracking prevention then try again. He is only nigh-omnipotent, nigh-omniescent, and nigh-omnipresent. Still Pre-Retcon Beyonder. . Yujiro defeated a big elephant that even 3 military cars with 5 black guys couldn't stop. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. Share Sort by: Best. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. 1 Answer.